( ESNUG 412 Item 9 ) -------------------------------------------- [05/22/03]

Subject: ( SNUG 03 #6 ) "Aart's Favorite System Tool Of The Year 2004"

> VOTED OFF THE ISLAND:  One of the side effects of Aart now supporting
> System Verilog is that it's an indirect VHDL smackdown.  It's a zero sum
> game.  System Verilog can't own the future without killing off the VHDL
> past and some of the more religious VHDL users reacted in ESNUG 411 #6.
>
>         - from http://www.deepchip.com/items/snug03-06.html


From: Pasi Tukiainen <pasi.j.tukiainen=person company=nokia sought dawn>

Hi John.

Still about Aart's keynote speech.  VHDL is dead?  Huh?  Or the SNPS support
for VHDL is dead?  Well SNPS has never supported VHDL.  SNPS supports only
a subset of IEEE-1076.  And somehow this subset quite closely resembles
Verilog.  So why bother kicking VHDL.  For an elaboration tool it should be
a quite trivial task to translate a Verilog subset of VHDL to Verilog.  And
after that we engineers just don't care, a netlist is a netlist.  We just
pick the one that is faster to simulate and causes you less problems with
backend tools.

However in the RTL world VHDL has two very powerful features: configurations
and entity-architecture separation.  These together are very useful e.g. for
someone who wants to be technology/foundry independent.  Or for someone who
has many implementations of a certain function, others optimized for
performance, others for low-power, others for area, others for RTL
simulation.  Or for someone who is required to produce many ASICs with
small variations quickly...

OK, I know (or hope at least) that it was all about the system tools.  It
seems however that Aart has a new system tool for every SNUG meeting.
Therefore we could arrange a bet for the "Aart's favorite system tool of
the year 2004".  But then again betting is illegal here in Finland.

    - Pasi Tukiainen
      Nokia Mobile Phones                        Tampere, Finland


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