( SNUG 10 Item 9 ) ---------------------------------------------- [04/15/10]
Subject: What 238 users think of IC Validator vs. Calibre
APATHY RULES (Part IV): And here's the second time where user apathy works
*against* Synopsys instead of *for* Synopsys. With a 70% user happiness
rating and a whopping 61% being "best technology", IC Validator doesn't
stand a snowball's chance in Hell against Mentor Calibre -- plus it's comic
I couldn't find *ONE* company that switched over to ICV in this survey!
And ironically, again, the one company Aart truly hates, Magma, has the 7%
second place in DRC/LVS with its Quartz DRC/LVS. (See ESNUG 483 #2.)
Concerning Synopsys IC Validator inside of IC Compiler, our group:
1- We're sticking with Mentor Calibre, it's the best price.
: ######### 9%
2- We're sticking with Mentor Calibre, it's best technology.
: ############################################################# 61%
3- We're considering Synopsys IC Validator now.
: ####### 7%
4- We've already using Synopsys IC Validator.
: 0%
5- We're considering (name other tools) to replace Calibre.
Magma Quartz : #### 4%
6- We've already switched to (name tool).
Magma Quartz : ####### 7%
Cadence Assura : #### 4%
Synopsys Hercules : ### 3%
Tanner Tools : ### 3%
Comments?
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A validation with the tool from the same layout provider?
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
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Sticking with Mentor. We will not maintain two set of command files.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
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Staying Calibre. It's hard to not use what our foundries all use.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
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We're sticking with Mentor Calibre because its not worth looking at
other tools right now.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
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With competition Calibre always improves.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
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We do not have much experience with ICV, but will probably sooner
or later evaluate it.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
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We use Synopsys Hercules. Synopsys seems to want us to switch to
IC Validator. But, if we were to make a switch, it would make more
sense to switch to industry-leader Calibre, rather than IC Validator.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
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We've fighting with Hercules, and really so many errors could be easily
caught by Calibre, and bad in Herc. Calibre RVE is much better than VUE.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
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We're stuck with Hercules because our technology development team won't
code for IC Validator.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
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Last time I looked, it was still Hercules stuff.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
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We already use Quartz.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
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Use Quartz
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
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We use the Tanner solution. For final signoff, the fab or one of
our partners runs Calibre.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
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We also use Cadence Assura.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
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We're using an internal Intel tool.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
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