( SNUG 05 Item 3 ) ----------------------------------------------- [12/20/05]

Subject: Synopsys Hotline

A BACKHANDED VICTORY -- Last year I did this survey with many of the exact
same questions for Cadence in 2004:

   "Most of the time when you call the *Cadence* hotline, do you feel that
    you get access to (choose one) knowlegable experts, or people with
    average skills, or the truly inept?"

      knowlegable experts:  ############ 24%

           average skills:  ################ 32%

          the truly inept:  ###################### 44%

             - from http://www.deepchip.com/items/icu04-03.html

The same question for Synopsys in 2005:

   "Most of the time when you call the *Synopsys* hotline, do you feel that
    you get access to (choose one) knowlegable experts, or people with
    average skills, or the truly inept?"

      knowlegable experts:  ############ 24%

           average skills:  ########################## 54%

          the truly inept:  ########## 21%

Comparing the two, 24% vs 24% for "experts" is a tie, any votes for "average"
is a wash, but that "inept" 44% for Cadence vs "inept" 21% for Synopsys is
technically a win for Synopsys.  And besides, can't you already see that big
motivational banner Synopsys management will put up near the hotline cubicals
to celebrate this victory?  "SYNOPSYS HOTLINE -- PROUD TO SUCK LESS!"

         ----    ----    ----    ----    ----    ----   ----

  Never call them, but our application-eng is really good!

      - [ An Anon Engineer ]


  You get the cellphone of the person you need and they do not hassle you 
  with several forms to fill, (and later feedback :-))

      - Yossi Levhari of Verisure


  Hotline don't work here.  We call FAEs direct.

      - [ An Anon Engineer ]


  Never call/email it.  Have switched to going completely through our
  local AE as too many of the support staff were "truly inept".

      - Russell Petersen of Scientific Atlanta


  average skills - but I'm being kind.

      - [ An Anon Engineer ]


  people with average skills

  I never phone the Hotline, I just submit testcases electronically.  More
  than once I have had to ignore the sometimes useless Hotline help and
  convince someone else there was an issue to get a bug opened.

      - [ An Anon Engineer ]


  I feel like I've been sent to India.  Same feeling I get when I call
  Cadence, and hey, even Dell.  I would say that they're about average,
  but I expect more than that.  I seem to get someone else after the first
  call is logged, but the initial call always seems to be just logging the
  incident.  The hotline help after that seems to have a wide range of
  skill, some great, some not so great.  I suppose this is  getting to
  be the same everywhere???

      - [ An Anon Engineer ]


  Average with the possibility of getting to an expert.

      - David Black, consultant


  Most of the time they are of average skills, other times they are inept.

      - [ An Anon Engineer ]


  Usually knowledgeable experts, but sometimes some don't understand
  my problems.

      - [ An Anon Engineer ]


  I try to submit my calls via SolvNET rather than over the phone; the first
  line of support doesn't typically have the knowledge to solve my problem,
  but they usually get someone else involved pretty quickly, and they
  typically know their stuff.

      - David Smith of STmicroelectronics


  Phone hotlines always start with average and then knowledgeable experts.

      - [ An Anon Engineer ]


  They are average overall.  Hard part is understanding the customer's
  flow.  I wish there were a reliable way to package up a run and
  recreate it back at Synopsys.

      - [ An Anon Engineer ]


  Truly inept.  BUT they always put me in touch with someone who knows
  what they're doing within 1 business day, and I get my questions
  answered quickly.

      - Tom Mannos of Sandia National Laboratories


  Knowledgable experts.

      - John Gedde of Aeroflex Laboratories


  In europe: knowlegable experts

      - [ An Anon Engineer ]


  knowlegable experts

      - Garrett Godfrey of Imagination Technologies Ltd.


  People with average skills.  That said, I have found some many issues
  with their tools that I have a very capable person now assigned to get
  all my issues.

      - [ An Anon Engineer ]


  A mix of knowlegable experts and people with average skills.

      - Lauren Carlson of StarGen Inc.


  Average skills at first, eventually escalated to knowledgable experts
  if necessary.

      - [ An Anon Engineer ]


  First line support is fair-to-not so good.  It seems like they pass you
  off to others who know the stuff ok-to-fair.  

      - [ An Anon Engineer ]


  People with average skills with 1-2 years of experience in engineering,
  and 6 months experience with Synopsys tools.

      - [ An Anon Engineer ]


  Generally, the Synopsys hotline folks are knowlegable.  Aren't there
  some hyphens in know-leg-able? 

      - [ An Anon Engineer ]


  Only called once in ~5 years.  I did get good results, if memory serves.

      - [ An Anon Engineer ]


  Experts (or maybe I'm dumb!)

      - John Gray of Atmel


  With their Nassda HSIM product (could be acquisition pains) it is the
  truely inept.  I've been a user of HSIM for ~ 3 years, and I'm basically
  reading the manual to my "local" support engineer, who is in another
  state.  It was not that way before the acqusition.

      - [ An Anon Engineer ]


  It takes a while to get someone that understands.  Sometimes I don't but
  I submit a testcase and that does get into the hands of an expert.  I
  seldom seem to talk to an expert though.  Mostly its just people with
  average skills.

      - Joseph Panec of Teradyne
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