( ESNUG 576 Item 2 ) ---------------------------------------------- [09/22/17]

Subject: Prakash sees 3X revenue in 2017 by crushing SNPS Atrenta Spyglass
                DAC'17 Troublemakers Panel in Austin, TX

   Cooley: Prakash, I'm going to ask the same question as before, except in
           a different way for your company.  You're going after Atrenta. 
           You do linters and RTL linters and Synopsys is huge in that 
           space.  They have a huge distribution channel.  They're a 
           multi-billion dollar corporation, and you're going after them?

           That doesn't make sense.  Does your company have a drug testing
           policy and why are you not subjected to it?

  Prakash: John, first of all, Real Intent does "linters", just like this
           is an "MP3 player" [holds up a smart phone].  You can choose to
           call it whatever you choose to call it -- that's fine. 

           Here's hard data.  In the first half of 2017, we have done more 
           business that we did all of last year.  We're on pace to triple
           our business.

           Why?  Well, people have talked about the same principles applied 
           in our context in a very specific way.  We had invested in trying
           to change the engine on a flying plane and basically to leapfrog 
           Atrenta or SpyGlass.  That happened about two years before the 
           SpyGlass Atrenta acquisition.  And yeah, I completely agree it's
           very hard.  

           But we did it.  The timing was fantastic because Atrenta was 
           acquired just when we were coming out with our products.  That's
           Number One.

No one enjoys being fleeced.
           And Number Two (DAC'16 #2 - "Aart raises ATRN prices 2X to 3X")
           is that I don't what happens... maybe Joe and Anirudh can talk
           about it...  What happens when a company gets acquired.
           Why do they get stagnant?

           SpyGlass has become stagnant over the last few years -- perhaps
           they're getting assimilated within Synopsys -- whereas we have
           continued to keep pace.  Today we offer much better products 
           compared to SpyGlass.  I think Synopsys has a lot of leverage so 
           they engage in price competition a lot.

   Cooley: Well that's the thing.  You're dealing against a bundled deal. 
           You're outside the bundle, so that's a nightmare scenario.

  Prakash: Yeah but sure they have their advantage but we have advantage 
           that we have much superior functionality to offer.  There's less
           price competition right now than we had with Atrenta, so those 
           two factors are contributing to our current success.  

           We're doing very well.

   Cooley: Ok.

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