( ESNUG 551 Item 7 ) -------------------------------------------- [08/04/15]

Subject: Jolly, Atrenta, DAC, Innovus/ICC2, IJTAG, ARM, Silvaco Iliya, QCOM

POST-DAC CHILL: Here's the latest news & rumors I've heard about EDA and the
fabs post DAC'15.  Feel free to comment/correct/scold!

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  - TOLD YA SO! (part I): 6 days before it actually happened, DeepChip broke
    the news that Ansys was acquiring John "Jolly" Lee's 6 engineer Big Data
    start-up Gear Design Solutions.  Booya!  Jolly is known for Magma Mojove
    Quartz DRC/LVS which gave MENT Calibre some trouble in ESNUG 445 #14.
       
    Sources say Ansys paid $30 million for Gear -- which sounds hefty until
    you realize Zacks Investment Research had downgraded ANSS from "hold" to
    "sell" on May 10th -- along with most other Wall St analysts badmouthing
    ANSS shares.  Long story short, ANSS mechanical CAD sales aren't growing,
    but for a few years Apache EDA sales were growing -- yet in the last few
    months after Andrew Yang walked, many of the core Apache R&D staff have
    been walking, too.  A desperate Jim Cashman, CEO of Ansys, had to bring
    in John Lee's "Big Data techniques for IR-drop/EM!" as a last hope.

    Rumor is some recent "ex-" Apache R&D have "unresigned" now that Jolly
    is on the Ansys masthead as a VP & GM.

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  - NOT SITTING IDLE: While Voltus, Cadence's IR-drop answer to the industry
    dominant Apache Redhawk, so far completely lacks anything Big Data in
    it; but Anirudh's R&D has not been sitting on their hands doing nothing.
   
    At DAC, Anirudh's saledroids hyped Cadence's Voltus-DP (for "distrubuted
    processing") with two different 16nm FinFET customer benchmarks:

                       size      # of CPU     runtime        memory
       old Voltus   146 M inst      16      23:32 hours      648 GB
        Voltus DP   146 M inst     128       4:38 hours      122 GB

       old Voltus   205 M inst      32      36:12 hours      880 GB
        Voltus DP   205 M inst     256       6:24 hours      156 GB

    They were all gushy getting 5-6X faster with 6-7X less memory use.  I
    suspect these were Juniper and Maxlinear benchmarks, but CDNS wouldn't
    tell me.  CDNS guys claim it's "signoff accuracy regardless of how
    many CPUs/machine configurations are used" and "over 50 customers".
   
    NO FREE LUNCH: For normal designs you can still run old Voltus multi-
    threaded on one machine.  But for large designs you'll need 10 trillion
    CPUs across 10 trillion servers plus Voltus-DP if you want to get these
    new quickie-but-signoff-accurate runs.

          "Please sir, can I have some more [CPUs]?"

               - Oliver Twist in an 1837 novel by Charles Dickens

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  - TOLD YA SO! (part II): And whopping 35 days before the official story
    broke, DeepChip leaked Synopsys was acquiring Atrenta!  SCOOP CITY!!!
    Rumor is it was a Dassault vs. Synopsys bidding war; that is, neither
    Cadence nor Mentor didn't bother to bid!  Consensus gossip is ATRN was
    $100 M to $150 M -- only 2X to 3X revenue -- with one source saying
    that $150 M is best bet in ESNUG 550 #8.
      
    Big question now: will Atrenta be a standalone division of Synopsys?
    Or will it be diced up Borg-style as per the SNPS norm?  I'm hearing
    conflicting data on this.  Many say Manoj and Anton will divvy up the
    ATRN spoils; one says Ajoy Bose will keep running ATRN as is.  Why this
    is possible is because they're doing a 2nd Atrenta World on Oct. 21st.

    Whatever the case, the SNPS Borg took over Atrenta on Monday, Aug 3rd.

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  - FUN QUOTE:

       "Upside: We will now get SpyGlass and BugScope almost free as
                part of our package license buy from Synopsys."

     "Downside: Even though we're not a Tier 1 account, Atrenta customer
                support would treat us like kings whenever we had any
                issue.  Now because we're nobodies, we'll get the standard
                wait-in-line Synopsys customer support that all the other
                nobodies get -- but now for SpyGlass and BugScope, too."

                    - Atrenta user on the DAC floor (06/08/15)

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  - TOLD YA SO! (part III): Waaay back in the Austin DAC Troublemakers
    Panel in 2013, I openly asked Dean Drako a question that started with:

      "Dean, with your personal net worth, you could open up your checkbook
       and just buy most of the companies in this room..."

    Well, it turns out during the week of DAC'15, Dean Drako actually bought
       
    a web cloud access control company, Brivo, with a $50 M personal check!

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  - FUN FACTS:

        DAC Full Conference Attendees

            2010 :  :  ################ 1,554
            2011 :  :  ################# 1,746
            2012 :  :  ################### 1,901
            2013 :  :  ################ 1,589
            2014 :  :  ######################## 2,393
            2015 :  :  ######################### 2,504 (+4.6%)

        DAC Exhibit-Only Attendees

            2010 :  :  ################### 1,890
            2011 :  :  #################### 2,006
            2012 :  :  ############################ 2,783
            2013 :  :  ######################## 2,364
            2014 :  :  ################# 1,650
            2015 :  :  ################### 1,889 (+14.5%)

        DAC Exhibitors

            2010 :  :  ######################### 2,557
            2011 :  :  ########################## 2,598
            2012 :  :  ########################### 2,704
            2013 :  :  #################### 1,998
            2014 :  :  ########################### 2,658
            2015 :  :  ########################## 2,618 (-1.5%)

      If you look at EDA buyers (2,504 + 1,889 == 4,393) DAC'15 attendance
      was up a healthy +8.6% vs. the 4,043 attendance of last year.  

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  - FUN QUOTE:

      "Exhibiting at DAC, when you add up the booth space, rentals,
       travel expenses, hotel rooms, etc. costs us a total of $40K.
       This more than pays for itself with the customer meetings we
       had.  DAC is by far the most efficient way we can reach many
       of the right customers under one roof to show our SPICE
       variation tools.
      
       Having face-to-face meetings with our customers is so important
       that outside of DAC we invest in travel which, given all of
       their worldwide locations, adds up to much more than $40K.
 
       Showing at DAC every year is a no brainer for Solido."

           - Amit Gupta, CEO of Solido

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  - WATCH OUT, AART!: When Anirudh launched Innovus with his 44 jabs
    against Synoposys IC Compiler II (see ESNUG 548 #1), CDNS had
    ARM, Freescale, Juniper, Renesas, Maxlinear, and Spreadtrum as
    customers openly endorsing Innovus.  Freescale was no biggie cause
    it's a longstanding CDNS house, but having "we-are-vendor-neutral"
    ARM step up was big!  (ARM even went ON PUBLIC RECORD reporting it
    got better PPA with Innovus vs. ICC2 with its new Cortex-A72!)
        
    What's new is last week in the CDNS 2Q15 earnings call Qualcomm,
    Nvidia, ST and Faraday just went on public record endorsing CDNS
    Innovus -- and these are well known SNPS houses!  Add LG and
    (shhhhhh!) Apple to that list and it looks like Aart has trouble.
       
    Now the pregnant questions are: is Innovus replacing ICC/ICC2 at
    Qualcomm/Nvidia/ST?  Or is Innovus in one tiny group in these user
    companies?  Or is Innovus used in 10%/50%/90% of their chips?  Or
    for "test" blocks only???  Inquiring minds want to know!  :)

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  - FUN QUOTE:

      "I wish to categorically deny any rumors that Real Intent was in
       talks to be acquired for $300 million.  We would be insulted by
       such a low bid."

           - Prakash Narain, CEO of Real Intent on the news that
             their rival, Atrenta, got acquired.  (DAC 06/08/15)

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  - LIP-BU ON THE DEFENSIVE: One fun aspect of EDA watching is catching the
    subtle hidden (yet public) attacks-and-counter-attacks that go on.

      "On hardware front, Palladium XP won six new logos.  One of our
       newest Palladium 'use' models, Dynamic Power Analysis, is proving
       to be vital in diagnosing and debugging software-related power
       issues in mobile applications.  Pre-production testing of our
       next-generation emulator continues, and we remain on track to
       start shipping later this year."

           - Lip-Bu Tan, CDNS CEO on 15Q2 CDNS Earnings Call (07/27/15)

    This seems benign until you realize that Wally's Big DAC Emulation
      
    Announcement was how his MENT Veloce II now has super tight deep
    hooks into Ansys Apache PowerArtist which does RTL power reduction
    analysis (and data transfers) 4.5X faster.  That "new" CDNS Dynamic
    Power Analysis quote was Lip-Bu playing emulator defense!  (Ouch!)

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  - WALLY'S TEST WORLD: Mentor has now done 11 live seminars worldwide
    and 3 WebX webinars on IJTAG, the new IEEE 1687 standard for scan
    testing IP blocks inside a chip.  MENT had 777 total attendees.
     
    IJTAG let's you do plug-and-play, pattern reuse, stacked die, etc.
    AMD, NXP, Avago uses IJTAG -- yet SNPS & CDNS don't have it?  Huh?

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  - SON OF IVAN: To everyone's surprise, after being away from DAC for
    10 years -- and 3 years after Ivan Pesic's death -- Silvaco came back
    to DAC with Ivan's 34 year old son Iliya Pesic as Chairman.
      
    It's common knowledge how father Ivan micromanaged EVERY minor aspect
    of Silvaco even down to personally approving customer visit train passes
    for each employee in Japan.  (See ESNUG 513 #7.)  Now the big question
    is how son Iliya -- with an MSEE, 5 years process engineer experience,
    and speaks fluent Japanese plus some Korean -- either whips Silvaco into
    shape as a truly scaleble "real" standalone EDA company... or not. 
    
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  - RUMOR ON THE STREET: A single source says the Micron 20nm memories
    and Samsung 14nm memories were both done in ProPlus NanoSPICE Giga.
      
    That is, Samsung and Micron bailed on Synopsys FineSim Pro due to
    accuracy problems during DRAM/FLASH leakage power simulations.

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  - RUMOR ON THE STREET (part II): A reliable single source says ARM is in
    talks to buy Carbon Design Systems.  (Don't know if firesale or not.)
     
    Carbon stopped updating its web site and IP exchange on May 19th right
    after it launched its virtual prototype for the ARM Cortex-A72.

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  - EDA VENDOR QUESTION:

      "My team was exhausted after all the beforehand prep and on site work
       required for DAC.  We make EDA tools so DAC's expected.
  
       But my engineers question Semicon West.  Can you ask your EDA readers
       if they believe exhibiting at Semicon West is worth the added time
       and expense so soon (4 weeks) after DAC?"

           - An Anon EDA Vendor

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And again, feel free to comment/correct/scold/question anything you see here
by just emailing me directly.  And, yes, you'll be ANONYMOUS!

    - John Cooley
      DeepChip.com                               Holliston, MA
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