( ESNUG 501 Item 7 ) -------------------------------------------- [04/04/12]
Subject: Chip designers confused/angered by terse TSMC 28 nm response
> "Regarding this issue, our policy is not to comment on market rumors.
> However, I want to inform you that our 28 nm production is normal,
> and all our 28 nm customers are fully aware of our production status."
>
> - from http://www.deepchip.com/items/0500-09.html
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What exactly is "normal" 28 nm production? Normal vs. what?
It took them 2 years to get 40 nm up. Is that "normal"?
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Do you have any more info on this 28 nm rumor? This so called TSMC
official response is less than clear.
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Why can't these guys just come clean? Why all the secrecy?
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Would the fabs in Hsinchu collapse if they were open and honest
about them?
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WTF? A market leader talks to its customers like this?
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When is it "normal" for a fab to shut down for a month?
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What's "normal"?
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Do you have any idea what they're saying?
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I think it's Chinese whispers, John. One line might be down, while
the rest may be happily ticking along.
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Re: ESNUG 500 #9 - WTF? - EOM
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I'm confused. Are you confused? I am!
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"Normal" means what in this context?
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Clever use of words. It's "normal" for early production lines
to have starts and stops. They're saying they halted without
saying they halted. Typical TSMC.
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Classic ambigious TSMC. Both denying and not denying while
hiding behind the mask of pretending that they don't fully
understand English.
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I guess we will just wait and see. We were not using 28 nm per se
but are designing for a Q4 tape out on 40 LP which I understand
uses the same fab lines. It might be busy if TSMC is also trying
to troubleshoot and recover 28 nm.
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I hate this cryptic S***!
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This smells like 40 nm all over again. Great.
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40 nm. Been there. Done that. Got the T-shirt.
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I heard Nvidia ripped the TSMC guys a new one over this.
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Jen-Hsun Huang is furious at Morris Chang for dropping the
ball on 28 nm yields. It cost Nvidia $100 million in Q1/12.
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At least GloFlo owns up to their problems. Once GloFlo gets
its 28 nm up, I'm recommending to my boss that we go with them.
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