( ESNUG 461 Item 10 ) ------------------------------------------- [01/31/07]

Subject: ( ESNUG 457 #5 ) new DC-Topo correlates within 4% of Magma P&R

> Our 130 nm test design was 125 MHz with 7 clocks and 28 derived clocks.
> It had 164 IO's with 87 macros.  The releases used: DC Ultra 2005.09 SP3
> (topo is only available on Ultra) & 2005.09 PhysOpt.
>
>                         DC with CWLM's       DC with Topographical
>
>     Timing Correlation     10.08%                   6.02% 
>       Area Correlation      2.8%                    1.4%
>    Runtime (RTL to PG)     18.16 hr                17.7 hr
>    Memory (DC+PhysOpt)      4.08 GB                 4.14 GB
>
> Topo DC had better timing and area correlation compared to our manually
> created CWLM's; to our surprise it also had better area post-PhysOpt.
>
>     - Jasper Lee
>       Progate Group Corporation                  Taipei, Taiwan


From: Rajiv Sharma <rajsharm=user domain=cisco not balm>

Hi, John,

I would like to 2nd the good results that a few of your readers have
observed with DC-Topo.  We did an eval focused on area and timing
correlation between DC-Topo synthesis and subsequent Magma P&R using
Texas Instruments 65 nm libs.

                             DC with       DC with
                             no WLM        7LM WLM    DC-Topo
                            ---------     ---------  ---------
   post synthesis (WNS)       0 psec       0 psec    -418 psec
   Magma placement (WNS)   -578 psec    -559 psec    -553 psec

   post synthesis area        0.9          1.4          3.1
   Magma placement area       3.2          3.2          3.2

   DC synthesis runtime       8 hrs       34 hrs       17 hrs

          versions: DC/DC-Topo v2006.06-SP1
                    Magma 2005.03.113.3075.5.ft-linux24_x86_64

Area prediction during synthesis stage is important to get early warning
for any die-size increase.  Timing prediction is important to reduce the
long iterations to modify RTL to fix timing violations seen during P&R.

Our results showed a 2% correlation for area and 4% correlation for timing
using DC-Topo synthesis and Magma Blast Fusion.

    - Rajiv Sharma
      Cisco Systems, Inc.                        San Jose, CA
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