( ESNUG 262 Item 4 ) -------------------------------------------- [5/29/97]
Subject: Tell Me Names! Exactly *WHO* Is Using Behavioral Compiler?
> "How come there were no papers on Behavioral Compiler? At the
> Applied Behavioral Compiler Tutorial (which was _excellent_
> btw) they mentioned about 50 companies worldwide using BC. Yet
> only one chip taped out so far! How can this be? Do companies
> really spend $150K on a tool and then not use it? Does it really
> reduce the time to market?" -- An anonymous user's response
From: [ Treated As Anon ]
I can believe it. It doesn't fit our needs just yet. We tried it and
did not like it. Synopsys folks were outraged, practically calling us
idiots for not embracing it now. But then when that Apple paper came
out last year, we thought "it must be good". Eval'd it again. My latest
check of our Synopsys licenses shows we still don't have it. Please
treat me as anon on this, OK?
- [ Treated As Anon ]
From: Ann Nunziata <NUNZIATA1@apple.com>
Hi John,
When is Synopsys going to admit that Behavioral Compiler is a failure? It's
a nice idea, but the implementation doesn't sound like it has improved any.
- Ann Nunziata
Apple Computer, Cupertino, CA
From: macafee@taec.com (David MacAfee)
Hi John,
I really appreciate your efforts to report on the SNUG conference. I use
verilog and I am happy to hear that there may be a future in using it. I
think that the comments on BC tape outs was particularly telling. I guess
I'm not the only one who doesn't "get it" yet.
- David MacAfee
Toshiba
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