Editor's Note: Check out http://www.DeepChip.com/barbara_wally.html to
  see the humorous responses I received from last week's ESNUG 418.  :)

                                           - John Cooley
                                             the ESNUG guy

( ESNUG 419 Subjects ) ------------------------------------------ [10/08/03]

 Item  1: Had a Bad Magma Experience, How About Cadence or Monterey Instead?
 Item  2: Synopsys User's Group Call-For-Papers Ends This Friday, October 17
 Item  3: User Warns That Synopsys Vera VCS Support Is Complete Vaporware
 Item  4: Did Someone Hack Into DeepChip?  What's With The Joke Banner Ads?
 Item  5: ( ESNUG 412 #13 ) Using Nassda HSIM Along With Cadence Spectre
 Item  6: Are Any Users Actually Thinking Of Using System Verilog Out There?
 Item  7: A "How To" Using Sequence PhysicalStudio Along With Apollo/Astro
 Item  8: Three Users Trip Reports About This Year's DVcon'03 Conference
 Item  9: What Did The Users See At The Recent Magma User's Group Meeting?

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