Editor's Note: In an off-the-cuff conversation last week, Richard Goering
  of EE Times asked me how many people read ESNUG.  "Oh, about 12,000 more
  or less," I said.  But the truth was that I hadn't looked into this in
  over a year.  Curious, I pulled down the list and found 13,958 members.
  I then spent a small part of the weekend analysing the list.  Overall I
  found it had 11,195 EDA users/buyers and 2,763 EDA camp followers.  And
  then...  Well, I'll just let you see for yourself below.  Enjoy.  :)

                                             - John Cooley
                                               the ESNUG guy

( ESNUG 391 Subjects ) ------------------------------------------- [04/10/02]

 Item  1: 8595 in the ESNUG Top 120 American Chip Design/Manufacturing Co.'s
 Item  2:  452 in FPGA, IP, and Consulting Co.'s
 Item  3:  506 in Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, India, & Aussie Co.'s
 Item  4:  472 in German, Dutch, Sweden, Norway, Finnish, Danish, UK Co's.
 Item  5:  178 in French, Italy, Swiss, Austria, Israel, Russia, Czech Co.'s
 Item  6:  710 Ghosts and the Unemployed in Yahoo/Hotmail/Aol Accounts
 Item  7:  282 in U.S. Military, U.S. Government, Microsoft, & .Org Accounts
 Item  8: 1875 in the ESNUG Top 45 EDA Companies
 Item  9:  147 Wall St. Spies, Venture Capitalists & Business School Profs
 Item 10:  112 Members of the Press, Public Relations, or Recruiting Firms
 Item 11:  443 in American & Canadian Universities
 Item 12:  138 in European Colleges & Universities
 Item 13:   48 in Asian, Aussie, Indian, & Brazilian Universities
 Item 14:  ... and a few of the Mystery People who monitor ESNUG


( ESNUG 391 Item 1 ) --------------------------------------------- [04/10/02]

Subject: 8595 in the ESNUG Top 120 American Chip Design/Manufacturing Co.'s

A CYBER-CENSUS IS DIFFERENT:  I have to qualify this part of the count as
*mostly* American because on the web it's not always easy to figure out
who's where.  A ".de" is in Germany.  A ".uk" is in England.  A ".se" is in
Sweden.  A ".jp" is in Japan.  A ".edu" is a college.  So a ".com", by
elimination, must be an American company for the purposes of this count.

					   # of ESNUG
		Domain Name		   Subscribers
		-------------------	   -----------
		intel.com			456
		mot.com				397
		ti.com				344
		ibm.com				252
		philips.com			244
		st.com				229
		lsil.com			197
		sun.com				192
		hp.com				143
		agere.com			141
		cisco.com			133
		compaq.com			120
		infineon.com			118
		lucent.com			108
		nsc.com				89
		amd.com				88
		analog.com			81
		agilent.com			78
		broadcom.com			61
		toshiba.com			60

		3com.com			58
		nortelnetworks.com		54
		ati.com				53
		matrox.com			53
		raytheon.com			54
		cypress.com			49
		pmc-sierra.com			46
		tellabs.com			42
		nokia.com			42
		cirrus.com			42
		nec.com				41
		fujitsu.com			41
		conexant.com			40
		teradyne.com			39
		honeywell.com			36
		alcatel.com			36
		ge.com				36
		emc.com				34
		micron.com			34
		lmco.com			33

		rockwell.com			33
		amis.com			32
		kodak.com			30
		harris.com			29
		unisys.com			27
		tek.com				27
		sony.com			27
		sgi.com				27
		amcc.com			26
		idt.com				25
		qualcomm.com			24
		hns.com				24
		oaktech.com			23
		dalsemi.com			23
		vitesse.com			22
		trw.com				21
		siliconaccess.com		21
		adaptec.com			21
		smc.com				17
		nvidia.com			17

		avici.com			17
		mea.com				17
		ingr.com			17
		txc.com				16
		s3group.com			16
		mindspeed.com			16
		itt.com				16
		siliconmetrics.com		15
		siemens.com			15
		medtronic.com			15
		esilicon.com			15
		xerox.com			14
		tensilica.com			14
		sciatl.com			14
		brocade.com			14
		zilog.com			13
		mmcnet.com			13
		maxtor.com			13
		cray.com			13
		symbol.com			12

		tsmc.com			12
		prairiecomm.com			12
		microchip.com			12
		l-3com.com			12
		juniper.net			12
		gennum.com			12
		emulex.com			12
		brecis.com			12
		boeing.com			12
		ab.com				11
		intersil.com			11
		mosaid.com			11
		ctron.com			11
		theseus.com			10
		switchcore.com			10
		ncr.com				10
		corrent.com			10
		bosch.com			10
		parthus.com			10
		simagic.com			10

		okisemi.com			10
		masca.com			10
		ecitele.com			10
		cogency.com			10
		zagrosnetworks.com		9
		unispherenetworks.com		9
		sarnoff.com			9
		qstech.com			9
		newbridge.com			9
		ishoni.com			9
		apple.com			9
		arrow.com			8
		tundra.com			8
		stortek.com			8
		paxonet.com			8
		mitel.com			8
		mcdata.com			8
		guidant.com			8
		transmeta.com			8
		symbios.com			7
		----------------------       ------
                Total                        5653


		976 additional ".com"s
                with 7 or less subscribers   2942
		----------------------       ------
                Section Total                8595


( ESNUG 391 Item 2 ) --------------------------------------------- [04/10/02]

Subject: 452 in FPGA, IP, and Consulting Co.'s

THE FPGAs ARE COMING!  It's interesting to discover so many FPGA guys
reading an ASIC-centric mailing list like ESNUG.  (There were 2.5X FPGA
people for every ASIC IP Core person!)  Maybe those Really Big FPGAs
actually are encroaching into the small ASIC space.


					   # of ESNUG
		Domain Name		   Subscribers
		-------------------	   -----------
		xilinx.com			113
		altera.com			38
		actel.com			28
		atmel.com			20
		latticesemi.com			11
		quicklogic.com			13
		----------------------       ------
                Total                         223

		arm.com				34
		mips.com			13
		siroyan.com			8
		lexra.com			8
		sonicsinc.com			7
		bops.com			6
		arccores.com			5
		rambus.com			5
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          86

		intrinsix.com			38
		wipro.com			24
		qualis.com			17
		tality.com			15
		asic-alliance.com		13
		reshape.com			10
		mint-tech.com			9
		zaiqtech.com			5
		easics.be			5
		frontec.se			3
		isratech.ro			3
		sidsa.es			1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                         143

		----------------------       ------
                Section Total                 452


( ESNUG 391 Item 3 ) --------------------------------------------- [04/10/02]

Subject: 506 in Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, India, & Aussie Co.'s

REMEMBER, THIS IS A CYBER-CENSUS:  These numbers are from ".jp", ".kr",
".tw", ".sg", and ".au" email addresses.

					   # of ESNUG
		Domain Name		   Subscribers
		-------------------	   -----------
		nec.co.jp			34
		toshiba.co.jp			23
		fujitsu.co.jp			23
		sony.co.jp			22
		hitachi.co.jp			21
		melco.co.jp			19
		synopsys.co.jp			17
		mei.co.jp			16
		ntt.jp				8
		sharp.co.jp			7
		oki.co.jp			6
		kawasaki-steel.co.jp		5
		epson.co.jp			5
		sanyo.co.jp			5
		zuken.co.jp			5
		dnp.co.jp			4
		spinnaker.co.jp			4
		starc.or.jp			3
		sii.co.jp			3
		sch.co.jp			3
		mew.co.jp			2
		fujixerox.co.jp			2
		lsisys.co.jp			2
		sumikin.co.jp			2
		hi-ho.ne.jp			2
		so-net.ne.jp			2
		cqpub.co.jp			2
		yamaha.co.jp			1
		kubota.co.jp			1
		fujielectric.co.jp		1
		asahi-kasei.co.jp		1
		ricoh.co.jp			1
		omron.co.jp			1
		hitachi-ul.co.jp		1
		yamato.ibm.co.jp		1
		okijoho.co.jp			1
		bai.ne.jp			1
		nissan.ne.jp			1
		par.odn.ne.jp			1
		.att.ne.jp			1
		dp.catv.ne.jp			1
		macnica.co.jp			1
		personal-media.co.jp		1
		hdlab.co.jp			1
		stlc.co.jp			1
		npc.co.jp			1
		teldevice.co.jp			1
		yamatake.co.jp			1
		innotech.co.jp			1
		logic-research.co.jp		1
		ilink.co.jp			1
		kel.co.jp			1
		ksv.msol.co.jp			1
		rohm.co.jp			1
		japan.co.jp			1
		glo.co.jp			1
		nikkeibp.co.jp			1
		semicon.njr.co.jp		1
		megachips.co.jp			1
		synplicity.co.jp		1
		niftyserve.or.jp		1
		kyoto-inet.or.jp		1
		sainet.or.jp			1
		k-isit.or.jp			1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                         284

		samsung.co.kr			20
		hei.co.kr			4
		seodu.co.kr			3
		davan.co.kr			3
		etri.re.kr			2
		nslab.co.kr			1
		pines.co.kr			1
		jat.co.kr			1
		nowcom.co.kr			1
		netas.com.tr			1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          37

		springsoft.com.tw		9
		sunplus.com.tw			7
		novas.com.tw			7
		mtk.com.tw			7
		tsmc.com.tw			6
		ali.com.tw			5
		via.com.tw			5
		pchome.com.tw			4
		sis.com.tw			4
		faraday.com.tw			2
		url.com.tw			2
		arti.com.tw			2
		ene.com.tw			2
		sti.com.tw			2
		itri.org.tw			2
		c1tech.com.tw			2
		sota.com.tw			2
		gtsc.com.tw			1
		transend.com.tw			1
		socle-tech.com.tw		1
		naturetech.com.tw		1
		iei.com.tw			1
		tmi.com.tw			1
		admtek.com.tw			1
		dlink.com.tw			1
		alcatel.com.tw			1
		welkin.com.tw			1
		unichip.com.tw			1
		innochip.com.tw			1
		maojet.com.tw			1
		ycity.com.tw			1
		seed.net.tw			1
		gcn.net.tw			1
		is.net.tw			1
		moxa.com.tw			1
		genesyslogic.com.tw		1
		gmt.com.tw			1
		syntest.com.tw			1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          91

		zsmc.com.cn			2
		trident.com.cn			2
		zte.com.cn			1
		viatech.com.cn			1
		huawei.com.cn			1
		sbell.com.cn			1
		icc.sh.cn			1
		siemens.com.cn			1
		uninet.co.cn			1
		sta.net.cn			1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          12

		singnet.com.sg			5
		cyberway.com.sg			3
		ftdpl.com.sg			2
		psl.com.sg			2
		spsda.com.sg			1
		nec.com.sg			1
		pcb-graphtech.com.sg		1
		aztech.com.sg			1
		tmi.com.sg			1
		marvell.com.sg			1
		fmap.com.sg			1
		channelsys.com.sg		1
		st.com.sg			1
		magix.com.sg			1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          22

		ozemail.com.au			2
		baea.com.au			1
		braemac.com.au			1
		reptechnic.com.au		1
		macquarie.com.au		1
		awadi.com.au			1
		ashenden.com.au			1
		canon.com.au			1
		ericsson.com.au			1
		smr.com.au			1
		bendor.com.au			1
		gbdt.com.au			1
		iinet.net.au			1
		softsmiths.oz.au		1


		designtools.co.nz		2
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          17

		controlnet.co.in		9
		dcmtech.co.in			5
		vsnl.net.in			5
		ernet.in			4
		sageindia.co.in			3
		tataelxsi.co.in			2
		yahoo.co.in			2
		scmmicro.co.in			1
		sanyo.co.in			1
		pol.net.in			1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          43

		----------------------       ------
                Section Total                 506


( ESNUG 391 Item 4 ) --------------------------------------------- [04/10/02]

Subject: 472 in German, Dutch, Sweden, Norway, Finnish, Danish, UK Co's.

MINIMUM NUMBERS:  I know for a fact that Siemens in Germany has more than
52 ESNUG readers, but much of their email now goes through a "infineon.com"
mailer -- mixing it up with its U.S. divisions!  Think of these as minimum
numbers.  Many more Europeans use ".com" addresses than are shown here.

					   # of ESNUG
		Domain Name		   Subscribers
		-------------------	   -----------
		siemens.de			52
		nec.de				16
		fhg.de				16
		gmx.de				8
		toshiba.de			6
		cadlab.de			6
		alcatel.de			4
		tum.de				4
		force.de			3
		mixed-mode.de			3
		lsil.de				3
		synopsys.de			3
		ops.de				3
		systemonic.de			3
		gmd.de				3
		offis.de			3
		telekom.de			2
		oaktech.de			2
		seh.de				2
		multilink.de			2
		sican.de			2
		fzi.uka.de			1
		c-lab.de			1
		brd.de				1
		secware.de			1
		ct.heise.de			1
		lenze.de			1
		litef.de			1
		sniap.mchp.sni.de		1
		sel.de				1
		heidenhain.de			1
		ihp-ffo.de			1
		betaresearch.de			1
		ims-chips.de			1
		philips.de			1
		thesys.de			1
		intermetall.de			1
		epost.de			1
		elrad.ix.de			1
		avm.de				1
		teldix.de			1
		combox.de			1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                         167

		alcatel.be			11
		imec.be				6


		translogic.nl			8
		philips.nl			6
		estec.esa.nl			4
		xic.nl				2
		sagantec.nl			2
		home.nl				1
		microhouse.nl			1
		ics.ele.tue.nl			1
		tref.nl				1
		signaal.nl			1
		arcobel.nl			1
		tip.nl				1
		nlr.nl				1
		tess.nl				1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          48

		ericsson.se			72
		iss.se				3
		space.se			2
		netcore.se			2
		enea.se				1
		syntera.se			1
		sectra.se			1
		axiom.se			1
		lsp.pp.se			1
		mrbear.se			1
		devenator.se			1
		threads.se			1


		nvlsi.no			4
		alcatel.no			4
		nera.no				1
		tdata.no			1
		chipcon.no			1
		dolphinics.no			1
		haustveit.no			1
		axxessit.no			1


		tut.fi				3
		tellabs.fi			3
		fincitec.fi			2
		nic.fi				2
		pigroup.fi			2
		vtt.fi				1
		nokia.fi			1
		eqvitec.fi			1
		abo.fi				1
		bitboys.fi			1
		elektrobit.fi			1

		oticon.dk			3
		dde.dk				1
		tekniskforlag.dk		1
		kjelsbak.dk			1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                         124

		armltd.co.uk			4
		saros.co.uk			4
		veda.co.uk			3
		atml.co.uk			3
		icl.co.uk			2
		ftel.co.uk			2
		rbp.co.uk			2
		eucad.co.uk			2
		synad.co.uk			2
		cix.co.uk			2
		coreintegration.ltd.uk		1
		toshiba.co.uk			1
		alphadata.co.uk			1
		redac.co.uk			1
		blackcatelec.co.uk		1
		clearspeed.co.uk		1
		dkhd.co.uk			1
		edaltd.co.uk			1
		lode.co.uk			1
		wimborne.co.uk			1
		tiscali.co.uk			1
		fml.co.uk			1
		nildram.co.uk			1
		xopen.co.uk			1
		linn.co.uk			1
		pixelfusion.co.uk		1
		amadido.co.uk			1
		sharp.co.uk			1
		algor.co.uk			1
		meggitt-avionics.co.uk		1
		dps.co.uk			1
		philips.co.uk			1
		art.co.uk			1
		neuw.co.uk			1
		jet.uk				1
		dera.gov.uk			1
		gsi.gov.uk			1

		s3two.ie			11
		sybernet.ie			2
		ssd.ie				3
		iol.ie				2
		eurokom.ie			1
		tcd.ie				1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          74

		atitech.ca			11
		nortel.ca			11
		pmc-sierra.bc.ca		10
		ems-t.ca			9
		bnr.ca				7
		cae.ca				4
		magma.ca			2
		squarepeg.ca			1
		formulagrowth.ca		1
		genesis-microchip.on.ca		1
		videotron.ca			1
		istar.ca			1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          59

		----------------------       ------
                Section Total                 472


( ESNUG 391 Item 5 ) --------------------------------------------- [04/10/02]

Subject: 178 in French, Italy, Swiss, Austria, Israel, Russia, Czech Co.'s

GONE .COM:  I hate to harp on this, but if you're really stupid you could
mis-conclude that very little chip design is done in France and Italy.  Ha!
Most of them have gone ".com" in their email addresses.


					   # of ESNUG
		Domain Name		   Subscribers
		-------------------	   -----------
		imag.fr				6
		bull.fr				3
		atmel.fr			2
		alcatel.fr			2
		thomson.fr			2
		esiee.fr			2
		cns.cnet.fr			2
		free.fr				1
		matra-def.fr			1
		hol.fr				1
		wavecom.fr			1
		calvecom.fr			1
		dolphin.fr			1
		aplio.fr			1
		wanadoo.fr			1
		yahoo.fr			1
		mhsfr.fr			1
		leda.fr				1
		irisa.fr			1
		realmagic.fr			1
		imt-mrs.fr			1
		alpes-net.fr			1
		francenet.fr			1
		matra-transport.fr		1
		enst.fr				1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          37

		italtel.it			4
		polito.it			4
		siemens.it			4
		cselt.it			4
		alcatel.it			3
		jth.it				3
		laben.it			2
		tin.it				2
		accent.it			2
		st.it				2
		infn.it				2
		ipitec.it			1
		sgs-thomson.it			1
		libero.it			1
		email.it			1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          38

		ds2.es				1

		siemens.at			8
		neuroth.co.at			1


		ethz.ch				6
		ascom.ch			3
		emmarin.ch			2
		bluewin.ch			2
		phonak.ch			2
		epfl.ch				1
		siemens.ch			1
		urbanet.ch			1
		ise.ch				1
		scentech.ch			1
		fhz.ch				1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          31

		sd.co.il			12
		zoran.co.il			11
		galileo.co.il			8
		dsp.co.il			7
		oren.co.il			2
		chipx.co.il			2
		ic.co.il			2
		trendline.co.il			1
		orbotech.co.il			1
		iai.co.il			1
		sital.co.il			1
		breezecom.co.il			1
		fcd.co.il			1
		scd.co.il			1
		zen.co.il			1
		comsys.co.il			1
		mellanox.co.il			1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          54

		msk.su				3
		computerra.ru			1
		javad.ru			1
		ici.ru				1
		rssi.ru				1
		rambler.ru			1
		niisi.ras.ru			1
		chat.ru				1
		mipt.ru				1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          11

		s3group.cz			3


		beotel.yu			1
		eunet.yu			1


		cpqd.br				2
		----------------------       ------
                Total                           7

		----------------------       ------
                Section Total                 178


( ESNUG 391 Item 6 ) --------------------------------------------- [04/10/02]

Subject: 710 Ghosts and the Unemployed in Yahoo/Hotmail/Aol Accounts

GHOSTING:  These addresses hide two groups of readers: 80% ghosts and 20%
the newly laid off.  Ghosts are employeed people who are hiding for one
reason or another.  Most are somewhat paranoid.  And most often, the ghosts
double subscribe to ESNUG: their work address and their Yahoo address.

					   # of ESNUG
		Domain Name		   Subscribers
		-------------------	   -----------
		yahoo.com			224
		hotmail.com			120
		aol.com				90
		netcom.com			37
		earthlink.net			23
		att.net				23
		pacbell.net			21
		compuserve.com			21
		demon.co.uk			19
		mediaone.net			18
		home.com			16
		bigfoot.com			14
		attbi.com			13
		juno.com			12
		mindspring.com			12
		usa.net				12
		pobox.com			10
		msn.com				10
		sympatico.ca			9
		dacafe.com			6
		----------------------       ------
                Total                         710

		----------------------       ------
                Section Total      	      710


( ESNUG 391 Item 7 ) --------------------------------------------- [04/10/02]

Subject: 282 in U.S. Military, U.S. Government, Microsoft, & .Org Accounts

COOLEY PARANOIA:  This is where *I* got paranoid myself when I found all
these military and government agencies (and Microsoft) watching me.  Then
I realised it's not me (silly!) -- Uncle Sam (and Microsoft) also designs
chips of their own, too!  Missiles, bombs, and WebTV, oh, my!

					   # of ESNUG
		Domain Name		   Subscribers
		-------------------	   -----------
		ieee.org			92
		dac.com				13
		sematech.org			10
		computer.org			10
		microsoft.com			9
		si2.org				8
		mitre.org			8
		acm.org				8
		vhdl.org			7
		iee.org				6
		cern.ch				3
		iec.org				3
		vi.se				3
		cfi.org				2
		edac.org			2
		eda.org				1
		eia.org				1
		accellera.org			1
		osf.org				1
		iies.es				1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                         189

		ncsc.mil			15
		af.mil				6
		osd.mil				4
		navy.mil			4
		nscs.mil			3
		arpa.mil			3
		darpa.mil			3
		army.mil			2
		arl.mil				1
		nesc.mil			1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          42

		nasa.gov			17
		nist.gov			11
		sandia.gov			8
		nsa.gov				5
		llnl.gov			3
		fnal.gov			2
		lbl.gov				2
		ornl.gov			2
		bettis.gov			1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          51

		----------------------       ------
                Section Total                 282


( ESNUG 391 Item 8 ) --------------------------------------------- [04/10/02]

Subject: 1875 in the ESNUG Top 45 EDA Companies

THE TOP 45 IN EDA:  I'm guessing there are roughly 100 more EDA employees
working in the small 1- to 5-man EDA shops not listed here.


					   # of ESNUG
		Domain Name		   Subscribers
		-------------------	   -----------
		synopsys.com			824
		cadence.com			289
		mentor.com			157
		avanticorp.com			71
		synplicity.com			43
		verisity.com			37
		magma-da.com			32
		novas.com			30
		ikos.com			27
		0-in.com			26

		innoveda.com			23
		verplex.com			21
		simplex.com			20
		mondes.com			19
		quickturn.com			13
		denalisoft.com			13
		coware.com			13
		model.com			12
		syncinc.com			10
		epic.com			10

		axiscorp.com			10
		artisan.com			10
		viragelogic.com			9
		pads.com			9
		orcad.com			9
		nassda.com			9
		exemplar.com			9
		co-design.com			9
		terasystems.com			8
		siperspective.com		8

		simucad.com			8
		translogic.nl			8
		chronology.com			8
		realintent.com			7
		incentia.com			7
		celestry.com			7
		ammocore.com			6
		tanner.com			6
		synchronicity.com		6
		tharas.com			6

		get2chip.com			6
		antrim.com			5
		transeda.com			5
		numeritech.com			5
		cynapps.com			5
		----------------------       ------
                Total                        1875

		----------------------       ------
                Section Total                1875


( ESNUG 391 Item 9 ) --------------------------------------------- [04/10/02]

Subject: 147 Wall St. Spies, Venture Capitalists & Business School Profs

ANYTHING FOR A SCOOP:  I didn't recognize who these domain names were at
first.  What's a "msdw.com"?  So I just started adding a "www." to them,
slapped it in a web brower, and saw what came up.  Using this technique
I discovered 147 Wall St. types were reading ESNUG!  Whoa.  That surprized
me until I remembered talking to one of these guys at last year's DAC.
"Anything for a scoop," he said.  Apparently EDA, if played right, is a
damn good place to invest in -- as long as you pick the winners and not
the losers.

					   # of ESNUG
		Domain Name		   Subscribers
		-------------------	   -----------
		msdw.com			14
		rsco.com			11
		dataquest.com			7
		ml.com				6
		citicorp.com			5
		collett.com			5
		instat.com			3
		needhamco.com			2
		gs.com				2
		troweprice.com			2
		csfb.com			2
		janus.com			2
		dainrauscher.com		2
		invesco.com			2
		mazamacap.com			2
		firstinvestors.com		2
		jwseligman.com			2
		nb.com				2
		sndv.com			2
		summitpartners.com		2

		blackrock.com			2
		essexinvest.com			2
		crosslinkcapital.com		2
		eaglecap.com			2
		oppenheimerfunds.com		1
		scudder.com			1
		sgcowen.com			1
		hamquist.com			1
		pioneerinvest.com		1
		mackay-shields.com		1
		pilgrimfunds.com		1
		capgroup.com			1
		founders.com			1
		dreyfus.com			1
		firstpacificventures.com	1
		wellsfargo.com			1
		scoutcap.com			1
		pequotcap.com			1
		pbhgfunds.com			1
		forbesasap.com			1

		frontiercap.com			1
		colonialfund.com		1
		preceptfund.com			1
		lonepinecapital.com		1
		techfunds.com			1
		aimfunds.com			1
		tiedemannfunds.com		1
		mutualofamerica.com		1
		desaisive.com			1
		shf.be				1
		venglobal.com			1
		velcap.com			1
		wasatchadvisors.com		1
		lincap.com			1
		levcap.com			1
		primebroker.com			1
		ccgrowth.com			1
		pequodinvestments.com		1
		nbfinancial.com			1
		mtifirms.com			1

		idcresearch.com			1
		eatonvance.com			1
		garpresearch.com		1
		dadco.com			1
		trellispartners.com		1
		earlybird.com			1
		fwdconcepts.com			1
		cibc.com			1
		fremontgroup.com		1
		brightfieldcapital.com		1
		bulldogcapital.com		1
		integralcapital.com		1
		geocap.com			1
		blumcapital.com			1
		highfieldscapital.com		1
		gmtcapital.com			1
		intelligentcapital.com		1
		lordabbett.com			1
		teamemerald.com			1
		rsinvestments.com		1

		sequoiacap.com			1


		wharton.upenn.edu		2
		hbs.edu				2
		uchicago.edu			1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                         147

		----------------------       ------
                Section Total                 147


( ESNUG 391 Item 10 ) -------------------------------------------- [04/10/02]

Subject: 112 Members of the Press, Public Relations, or Recruiting Firms

ANYTHING FOR A SCOOP (PART II):  The other surprize I got from this survey
wasn't that other trade publications read ESNUG (no news there), but that
the "civilian press" sniffed around ESNUG, too.  We're talking five at the
San Jose Mercury News, one guy at the Wall St. Journal, one at the New York
Times, another at The Oregonian, and even one at the Associated Press.  And
I'll bet you that most of these reporters can barely understand 1/10 of
what's said on ESNUG.  (I tried emailing 2 of them, but got no reply back.)

Or to quote Brian Fuller, the Editor-in-Chief of EE Times: "The Wall Street
Journal?  Hell, we translate for the guys over there."

					   # of ESNUG
		Domain Name		   Subscribers
		-------------------	   -----------
		eetimes.com			24
		edn.com				14
		mfi.com				9
		elecdesign.com			8
		pennwell.com			5
		sjmercury.com			4
		indiatimes.com			3
		edavision.com			2
		electronicnews.com		2
		hearstelectroweb.com		2
		wsj.com				1
		ap.org				1
		nyt.com				1
		oregonian.com			1
		elektroniktidningen.se		1
		et.se				1
		opencollector.org		1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          80


		hoffman.com			3
		armstrongkendall.com		3
		leepr.com			3
		tsantes.com			3
		vitalcompr.com			2
		thinkbold.com			2
		tactics.com			2
		valleypr.com			1
		grandarbor.com			1
		edadirect.com			1
		globalpresspr.com		1
		rainierco.com			1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          24

		themarlingroup.com		2
		searchpowerinc.com		1
		psa-prosearch.com		1
		protechcareers.com		1
		eesearch.com			1
		blackshire.com			1
		advancedgroup.com		1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                           8

		----------------------       ------
                Section Total                 112


( ESNUG 391 Item 11 ) -------------------------------------------- [04/10/02]

Subject: 443 in American & Canadian Universities

NOT ALL KIDS:  You might think that all the ".edu" subscribers are college
students preping for their job in the real world.  Think again.  A lot of
these guys are Profs researching chip design and EDA tool ideas, too.

					   # of ESNUG
		Domain Name		   Subscribers
		-------------------	   -----------
		mit.edu				41
		stanford.edu			30
		berkeley.edu			29
		cmu.edu				23
		uiuc.edu			16
		ucla.edu			13
		toronto.edu			10
		princeton.edu			9
		umich.edu			9
		ncsu.edu			9
		gatech.edu			8
		neu.edu				8
		utexas.edu			7
		uci.edu				7
		ucsb.edu			6
		ucsc.edu			6
		usc.edu				6
		ucsd.edu			6
		virginia.edu			5
		washington.edu			5

		jhuapl.edu			5
		mayo.edu			5
		vt.edu				5
		caltech.edu			4
		purdue.edu			4
		umd.edu				4
		colorado.edu			4
		rit.edu				4
		pitt.edu			4
		tamu.edu			4
		nd.edu				4
		pdx.edu				4
		columbia.edu			3
		byu.edu				3
		msstate.edu			3
		rpi.edu				3
		wpi.edu				3
		isi.edu				3
		wustl.edu			3
		umn.edu				3

		sunysb.edu			3
		villanova.edu			3
		rochester.edu			3
		rutgers.edu			3
		umass.edu			3
		bu.edu				3
		cwru.edu			3
		udel.edu			2
		ufl.edu				2
		cornell.edu			2
		utdallas.edu			2
		ucdavis.edu			2
		csus.edu			2
		utah.edu			2
		psu.edu				2
		siu.edu				2
		poly.edu			2
		ucsc-extension.edu		2
		umbc.edu			1
		unc.edu				1

		oakland.edu			1
		harvard.edu			1
		coloradocollege.edu		1
		duke.edu			1
		temple.edu			1
		ohio-state.edu			1
		sdstate.edu			1
		okstate.edu			1
		ucf.edu				1
		usf.edu				1
		lehigh.edu			1
		unh.edu				1
		dartmouth.edu			1
		ogi.edu				1
		hawaii.edu			1
		uark.edu			1
		unm.edu				1
		rose-hulman.edu			1
		uconn.edu			1
		clemson.edu			1

		binghamton.edu			1
		northwestern.edu		1
		auburn.edu			1
		brown.edu			1
		uchicago.edu			1
		buffalo.edu			1
		uwyo.edu			1
		cooper.edu			1
		ucs.edu				1
		ukans.edu			1
		ncat.edu			1
		fit.edu				1
		kent.edu			1
		orst.edu			1
		vcu.edu				1
		jhu.edu				1
		npu.edu				1
		sjsu.edu			1
		msu.edu				1
		mtsu.edu			1

		nwu.edu				1
		uky.edu				1
		emory.edu			1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                         416

		cmc.ca				6
		mcgill.ca			3
		polymtl.ca			3
		umontreal.ca			2
		uwaterloo.ca			2
		usherb.ca			2
		utoronto.ca			2
		uqam.ca				2
		umoncton.ca			1
		umanitoba.ca			1
		unb.ca				1
		ubc.ca				1
		rmc.ca				1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          27

		----------------------       ------
                Section Total                 443


( ESNUG 391 Item 12 ) -------------------------------------------- [04/10/02]

Subject: 138 in European Colleges & Universities

WHERE ARE THE FRENCH?  I found 78 German, 25 English, 12 Dutch, 6 Spanish,
6 Italian -- and only *1* French academic on ESNUG???  Qu'est-ce que c'est?


					   # of ESNUG
		Domain Name		   Subscribers
		-------------------	   -----------
		rwth-aachen.de			8
		uni-hannover.de			7
		uni-oldenburg.de		6
		tu-muenchen.de			5
		uni-kl.de			4
		uni-stuttgart.de		4
		tu-berlin.de			3
		uni-dortmund.de			2
		uni-rostock.de			2
		uni-mannheim.de			2
		mu-luebeck.de			2
		fernuni-hagen.de		2
		fh-nuernberg.de			2
		uni-ulm.de			1
		uni-erlangen.de			1
		uni-konstanz.de			1
		uni-jena.de			1
		uni-karlsruhe.de		1
		uni-hamburg.de			1
		uni-paderborn.de		1
		tu-harburg.dbp.de		1
		tu-dresden.de			1
		tu-bs.de			1
		tu-darmstadt.de			1
		tu-harburg.de			1

		tuwien.ac.at			4

		lth.se				5
		kth.se				3
		liu.se				2
		mdh.se				1

		uio.no				1

		oulu.fi				1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          78

		manchester.ac.uk		4
		rhbnc.ac.uk			2
		ed.ac.uk			2
		sli-institute.ac.uk		2
		strath.ac.uk			1
		bournemouth.ac.uk		1
		ucl.ac.uk			1
		cam.ac.uk			1
		soton.ac.uk			1
		lboro.ac.uk			1
		westminster.ac.uk		1
		umist.ac.uk			1
		gla.ac.uk			1
		hw.ac.uk			1
		sussex.ac.uk			1
		nwarks-hinckley.ac.uk		1

		ucd.ie				2
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          25

		tudelft.nl			11
		utwente.nl			1

		kuleuven.ac.be			2
		rug.ac.be			1

		univ-paris8.fr			1

		uniroma.it			2
		unict.it			1
		unige.it			1
		unipi.it			1
		unical.it			1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          22

		cma.ulpgc.es			2
		ac.upc.es			1
		unizar.es			1
		ceit.es				1
		imse.cnm.es			1

		ifj.edu.pl			1

		comm.pub.ro			1

		tau.ac.il			1

		ntua.gr				3

		itu.edu.tr			1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          13

		----------------------       ------
                Section Total                 138


( ESNUG 391 Item 13 ) -------------------------------------------- [04/10/02]

Subject: 48 in Asian, Aussie, Indian, & Brazilian Universities

OOPS, SORRY.  In with the Asian, Australian, & Indian universities, I put the
3 Brazilian profs I found.  (I couldn't think of where else to put them!)

					   # of ESNUG
		Domain Name		   Subscribers
		-------------------	   -----------
		kyushu-u.ac.jp			5
		osaka-u.ac.jp			2
		tsuruoka-nct.ac.jp		1
		tut.ac.jp			1

		snu.ac.kr			5
		hanyang.ac.kr			2
		huf.ac.kr			1
		wonkwang.ac.kr			1

		nctu.edu.tw			3
		nthu.edu.tw			2
		ntu.edu.tw			1

		buaa.edu.cn			1
		tsinghua.edu.cn			1
		pku.edu.cn			1
		lzu.edu.cn			1

		ntu.edu.sg			6
		nus.edu.sg			2
		ntu.ac.sg			1

		itb.ac.id			2
		iitb.ac.in			1

		curtin.edu.au			3
		monash.edu.au			1
		uq.edu.au			1

		ansp.br				1
		lme.usp.br			1
		ufrgs.br			1
		----------------------       ------
                Total                          48

		----------------------       ------
                Section Total                  48


( ESNUG 391 Item 14 ) -------------------------------------------- [04/10/02]

Subject:  ... and a few of the Mystery People who monitor ESNUG

HUH?  Why do *two* labor law firms, a boat captain, a San Diego realitor, a
certified public accountant, a college alumni group, a Florida country club,
an orchard, a Washington DC economic consultant, a jazz band, and a New Age
consulting house read ESNUG?  Don't ask me.  I don't know why!  Huh?

			Domain Name	
			-------------------
			millernash.com
			lanepowell.com
			wessels.com
			kwcpa.com
			pharmquest.com
			whitties.org
			quailcreekcc.com
			heritageorchard.com
			glassman-oliver.com
			fourthwave.com
			beers.nu
			caxton.com
			park-place.com
			zott.com
			grace.com
			citizenspower.com
			bizblues.com
			attractor.com
			seventhworld.com
			vito.com
			kearfott.com
			tudor.com
			livedoor.com



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