( ESNUG 471 Item 8 ) -------------------------------------------- [02/19/08]
Subject: Gary Smith - Gary Smith EDA
What is your current definition of the "Intelligent Test Bench"?
Wasn't last year the year of ESL?
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Curious why Hogan and Atul were having dinner at Hobees in Campbell
on Tuesday of last week. (Hobees is sort of a vegan Denny's... not
up scale at all but pretty anonymous. Hardly the haunt of multi-
millionaires.)
New start-up coming? (I know Jim and/or Atul may not make the panel
but...)
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For Gary : ARM reported their last FQ lower than expected, Freescale
in re-org and their CEO leaving, MIPS not really delivering big
number to the market, what is wrong in the semi industry?
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Is EDA a dying industry?
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Question for Gary Smith:
Your own analysis of ESL indicates that all the recent activity is
in Virtual Prototypes for design and verification. Is ESL Synthesis
irrelevant?
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Question for Gary Smith:
You have stated that lack of a 'concurrent system compiler' is a
crisis for programming multi-processor systems and that a new
concurrent language is needed. Yet lots of real designs with
heterogeneous multi-processors exist and succeed (take a look at
your cell phone). To quote an album title from the 1970's:
"Crisis? What crisis?"
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Gary,
Why are you perpetually optimistic about pipedreams like ESL
and Cadence Design Systems?
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What are your thoughts on recent EDA market-share developments?
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Are these "all you can eat" deals bad for EDA and the customer?
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Where has the passionate, vocal engineer gone? Is the fear of
outsourcing causing him/her to shut up and let the financial
folks drive the design flows?
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Gary Smith: There are 5 guys in the physical design business now...
Magma (Talus), Synopsys (ICC), Cadence (SOCE), Mentor (Sierra Olympus),
Atoptech (Aprisa). History shows the market can handle 2 or maybe 3
players. Where do you see things falling out?
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Ask all of them if the business of Chip deign and EDA is now a mature
industry and has limited or no growth? What is next?
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How can we get young people to choose electronics engineering as a
career anymore after we outsourced everything to India and Asia?
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As a responsible parent, would you allow your kid to become a chip
designer or an EDA developer? Wouldn't he/she becoming a street thug
or a crack whore be a more stable and honorable career in the long run?
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For Gary: Why is Dean on this panel?
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For Gary: Is there any evidence that ESL will ever take off?
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Question for Gary: At the EDAC CEO panel, Sanjay Srivastava of
Denali said that ESL is dead on the vine and that the next level
of abstraction is IP and software. Agree? Disagree? Why?
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