( ESNUG 438 Item 8 ) -------------------------------------------- [01/18/05]
Subject: 7 Users Happy That Verisity Specman Will Now Be Cheaper
> Cadence announced it's buying Verisity for $285 million in cash.
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> As an EDA user, do you think this is good news or bad news? Why?
Good. Cadence is a bigger company, and supplies a longer term backing
to the Specman product. Verisity was dependent on a narrow range of
products, and where were they to go? Would they really survive?
Perhaps the licenses will become cheaper too when purchased as part
of a Cadence bundle...
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
It's a good thing, we'll be able to buy it at a reasonable price
from Cadence.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
Good news. Hopefully we can now get Verisity tools in a bundle with
other Cadence stuff. I like 'e' and I like Specman. Cadence and
Verisity together have more chance of taking these tools forward
than Verisity alone.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
I expect this to bring the price of a simulator + high-level testbench
tool to be lower. Also expect that Cadence will include a baby_Specman
as part of a standard release of NC-SIM.
Wonder what will Modeltech do?
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
Good news because our VPA with Cadence means we might get it for a
reasonable price and be able to use it!
e was going nowhere unless it got adopted by a major vendor.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
I think this is good news since this will lower cost of Specman use.
This is because Verisity only had one product so deep discounts were
not possible. Cadence offers many products so users can leverage on
a larger purchase to get better discount.
We may even see a split of Specman into developer/runtime licenses
similar to Vera. And the runtime license given for free as part of
NC-SIM.
But on the other hand - one of the greatest advantages of Specman was
it was interfacing with simulators in a non-proprietary way - PLI.
This was mainly since Verisity did not have a simulator. I am afraid
that Cadence, in the name of better performance, will make the Specman
interface with NC-SIM in a proprietary way so users are locked into
NC-SIM. This drives the cost of simulators up since there is no real
competition - you use Specman, you also use NC-SIM rather than being
able to select you simulator freely.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
As an Cadence user, I think this is good news. We looked at Verisity
tools and we really liked what we saw from a reference account they
provided. But we were concerned about Verisity not fitting in with the
other tools we have (we rely heavily on Cadence tools) and did not buy.
We have been able to save money as Cadence rolls more and more features
into their suite (assertions, coverage, static formal, etc). Cadence is
becoming the Wal-mart of the EDA industry.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
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