( ESNUG 438 Item 4 ) -------------------------------------------- [01/18/05]
Subject: 11 Users Happy Because This Means The Survival of Specman "e"
> Cadence announced it's buying Verisity for $285 million in cash.
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> As an EDA user, do you think this is good news or bad news? Why?
I think it is good news. Language e of Verisity is not accepted now as
standard Assertions language by Accelera. So Verisity developers team
was "out". After merging with Cadence they would be "in".
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
I think that's a good news, cause this can help the convergence of the
verification languages. I'm wondering if E will be "the" language,
but we need one or two. But not three or four.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
Good news for us personally. Our main verification suite is Verisity
Specman and Cadence NC-SIM. This news should mean that they should
work together even better than before, and we have to deal with one
less EDA vendor and with a larger budget and hence clout.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
I view this from an EDA user perspective as a good news. It should
help in the long run to push the e language and bring it closer
together with Cadence Palladium and the rest of the Cadence flow.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
Sounds like a good thing for Verisity. It seems like they needed a
lifeline for e. Combining their technology with NC-SIM will also mean
that Cadence can compete with Synopsys on OpenVera, too.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
As an EDA user I think that this is good news because it should mean
that the e-language will be better integrated into the Cadence tools
and that it should not die out. I think that the e language is really
fun to use and powerful, so the merger is a good thing.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
Verisity's tools at the moment superior to the Synopsys approach.
However Verisity is a niche tool provider and has higher license
costs. This is not easy to justify to management.
We are positive on this development, since the Specman e technology
has now a greater backing.
Cadence should have bought Verisity before the Axis deal. I guess
an integrated NC-Verilog with Specman is now on the CDN roadmap.
However they have to scrap the Xsim stuff and are late compared to
Synopsys NTB activities.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
I think the merger is good for keeping the technology of Verisity
alive by integrating Verisity to a financially strong company.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
I think it is a good thing for Verisity and their tools. I feel the
Verisity tools have not been given the credit they deserve and haven't
caught on as much as they should have, given their capabilities. I
think part of the reason was because they were a small company and
therefore EDA users were afraid to insert them into their mainstream
methodology. Now that they are part of the Cadence tool set, they have
more credibility.
I think it is good for EDA users because now it will be easier to
justify the tools as part of their main development flow.
I think it is a bad sign for Cadence and is just another example of how
their R&D has a difficult time responding to customer needs.
Good news for small EDA vendors on Wallstreet because it shows an
investment in new EDA tools can pay off. Should get more $ into
smaller EDA.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
I believe this acquisition is good all around for EDA and Wall Street;
primarily because I did not see Verisity as having a strategy and new
products that could lead them to substantial growth that scale to
compete with Synopsys, Cadence, etc.
With Cadence behind them, they can leverage Verisity's Specman into
the design flow rather than it being a stand alone tool.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
Verisity's Specman Elite seems to be the best tool in town, but they
know nothing about a good EDA vendor-customer relationship. Verisity
managed to irritate most of their customers with their licensing
policy and their licenses maintenance. Their attitude towards
customers was solely dictated by their finance department, who saw
only short term considerations (immediate income).
Being familiar and acquainted with Cadence for many many years,
I'm positively sure that Cadence has all the needed long term plans
capabilities, time, energy, efforts, customer orientation, customer
relationship, patience, listening capabilities, courage, financing
and attraction capabilities to make Verisity succeed.
- [ An Anon EDA User ]
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