( ESNUG 387 Item 6 ) --------------------------------------------- [01/23/02]
Subject: ( ESNUG 386 #5 ) Readers Review The "Advanced Chip Synthesis" Book
> Someone suggested to me a book named "Advanced Chip Synthesis" by Himanshu
> Bhatnagar from Connexant. It's summary says that the book explains about
> the advanced chip synthesis techniques using the Synopsys tools from DC to
> PhysOpt to Primetime to Formality. Has anyone read this book? Is it any
> for knowing about different synthesis methodologies? We have Synopsys
> manuals and documents; is this book any different from what we can learn
> from them? I would appreciate comments on ESNUG on this.
>
> - Jay Pragasam
> Brecis Communications
From: [ Dr. Pepper ]
John, keep me anonymous.
IMHO, the book is just not worth it. It's way overpriced and does not give
any insights at all. You are much better off reading the online SOLD docs
from Synopsys.
- [ Dr. Pepper ]
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From: "Suresh Gopalrathnam" <suresh@synplicity.com>
Hello John,
I saw Jay's query in ESNUG regarding this book by Himanshu. We have it here
and I have read half of the book. I find it to be pretty outdated and some
sort of a quick-guide to Synopsys manuals. It has basically condensed many
Synopsys manuals into this one book. I don't think it will be useful for
someone who has quite a bit of experience with synopsys DC and PhysOpt.
- Suresh Gopalrathnam
Synplicity, Inc.
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From: David Tester <d.tester@iee.org>
Hi John.
We saw preliminary versions of many chapters from this book when I was at
Conexant. Like most VLSI books there are some good ideas, but they're
buried deep and covered with much that you'll already know. Probably a
better investment (time and money) to read the Synopsys manuals again.
- David Tester
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From: "Jim O'Keefe" <jok@erols.com>
Hi, John,
I needed a jump start for PrimeTime. I had used LSI logic's static path
analysis tool in the past and had been out of the full flow for a bit.
Mostly was doing back-end and sims for a foundry which was behind the
times. For a seasoned person, the book might not be very good. But, for
a person starting out or even as a good reference if you don't do
synthesis every-day, I think it is very good.
It gives you some good tips and at least you can develop a strategy. If
a strategy is in place the book helps newbies understand why.
I would vote to have the book in your group's library.
- Jim O'Keefe
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From: Bret Daline <BDaline@focusinfo.com>
This book may be worth reading, but it's not worth buying. I read it. I
would not recommend it, especially at $115. I generally agree with the
somewhat negative reviews at amazon.com, where I bought my copy. If I
haven't talked you out of reading it, I'll give you a great deal on a copy
in real good shape. Stick with SOLD and SNUG papers -- they are cheaper
and better.
- Bret Daline
Focus Enhancements, Inc. Hillsboro, OR
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