( ESNUG 384 Item 14 ) ------------------------------------------- [12/06/01]
Subject: Yes! The Synopsys-DC-To-Avanti-Apollo Flow Will Get Full Support!
From: "Andre Gaytan" <Andre.Gaytan@Sun.COM>
If they can solve the problem of the reducing the amount of time it takes
to go from start of synthesis to actual layout (with timing met), it will
be worth it.
- Andre Gaytan
Sun Microsystems
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From: "Noel St. John" <nstjohn@ti.com>
I think it is both good and bad news. We'll probably get better integration
(and support) for Avanti products but the future products could be less
innovative as stand alone products.
I imagine after a year the Avanti portfolio of products and features will be
scaled back as assimilation occurs.
On the other hand the combined Synopsys/Avanti products and subsequent flow
could be quite compelling.
Regardless, if the deal goes through, the Synopsys/Avanti package and pricing
will be a powerful force for competitors to deal with.
- Noel St. John
Texas Instruments
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From: "Pascal de Wit" <pascal@solidum.com>
Hi John,
Below 0.18 um, we need to bridge synthesis, placement and routing for any
chance of success. Why not "bridge" the two companies that create the stand
alone tools most of us use? How does the saying go? Divided we fall, united
we last a while longer?
- Pascal de Wit
Solidum Systems Corp.
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From: "Erez Naory" <Erez.Naory@nsc.com>
Hi John,
This may increase the interoperability between their tools, but I am sure,
it will be much harder to integrate other tools into their flows. I am
sure prices are going to go up!
- Erez Naory
National Semiconductor Hertzlia, Israel
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From: Roberto Zafalon <roberto.zafalon@st.com>
John,
This is sensational news. As a user of both Synopsys and Avanti, I expect a
tighter and seamless integration into an all-in-one design flow.
- Roberto Zafalon
STMicroelectronics Agrate Brianza, Italy
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From: "Pat Hefferan" <pheffera@msai.mea.com>
Generally, good news. It should stablize Avanti's legal situation somewhat
and provide a more formal avenue for integration of the two companies'
products, rather than leaving it up to the users.
- Pat Hefferan
Mitsubishi Semiconductor
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From: Romas Rudis <rudis@intrinsix.com>
It's neither good nor bad:
1) Synopsys will probably integrate their Physical Synthesis more tightly
with Avanti's place/route,
But...
2) Synopsys will still have to support Cadence's router.
So it's a NON-issue from a designer's point of view. However from a business
viewpoint, they picked up a great company for a VERY cheap price.
- Romas Rudis
Intrinsix Westboro, MA
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