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Subject: Mixing Synopsys & Avanti Cultures Are Like Mixing Oil & Water
From: Bruno Franzini <bruno.franzini@st.com>
John,
These companies won't merge easily: very different "company cultures".
- Bruno Franzini
STMicroelectronics
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From: "Gregg Lahti" <gregg.lahti@corrent.com>
I think over the last 10 years engineers have realized that multiple tools
in a flow doesn't always work well -- usually with the "vendor A won't talk
nicely with vendor B" scenario. Now the EDA industry is coming full circle
back to where vendors supply all tools in the back-end flow.
For the engineer in the back-end of the design flow, this deal has huge
potential of creating a decent, workable design flow for DSM. Too many
vendors don't offer the complete solution to make it happen without multiple
vendors and multiple AE's trying to make it all work. With the possibility
of getting a working detailed router combined with real polygon pushing
tools, Synopsys has a real shot in making a tool flow work well from RTL
through to layout.
The greatest risk for SNPS is the inherent beauracracy of consuming another
company with drastically different culture and the somewhat mitigated civil
lawsuit by their primary competition. I think it'll take at least an order
or Moore's law magnitutde (18 months) before this merger will bear fruit
worth eating.
- Gregg Lahti
Corrent Corp. Tempe, AZ
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From: "Klaus Vongher" <klaus.vongher@philips.com>
Hi John,
Business-minded the merger is a good thing. Both companies wanted to grow
at the expense of each other. Avanti wanted to enter the synthesis scene
(Astro). Synopsys entered the placement scene (PhysOpt).
It might even be good for the customer as PhysOpt is awfully priced.
So now you could have access to Avanti + Synopsys at a lower price. Yet a
merger on such a scale is very ambitious. Think only at the different
cultures in the two companies.
- Klaus Vongehr
Philips Semiconductors Munich, Germany
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