( ESNUG 384 Item 2 ) -------------------------------------------- [12/06/01]
Subject: The EDA Vendors Themselves Reacting To The Synopsys/Avanti Merger
From: [ The Spouse Of An Ex-Synopsys Internet Guy ]
John,
If you use my comments, please do not reveal my identity. Thanks.
I'm not a designer, but let me put in my two cents worth as a human being
affected by EDA. My husband is one of the people who was laid off when
Synopsys pulled the plug on the Internet Design Services division. Most of
those folks have not found jobs -- they've been looking since August. Why?
Big hiring freeze at Synopsys since 9/11. Same story in a lot of other
places. Sure, terrorist strike hits, they need to save money.
I know it's more complicated than this, but it's hard to reconcile the idea
that Synopsys desperately needs to freeze/trim headcount, but they can
afford to buy Avanti, you know? There are hiring managers at Synopsys with
immediate needs who may be wondering how well-spent the money is, too.
So, for what it's worth, from the point of view of the spouse of an
unemployed guy, I say the merger really sucks.
- [ The Spouse Of An Ex-Synopsys Internet Guy ]
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From: [ A Synopsys Employee ]
I think it is good news!
;-)
- [ A Synopsys Employee ]
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From: [ Another Synopsys Employee ]
Hi John,
I think it is a great news because Avanti is strong in the physical back
end and this is what Synopsys needs to make a complete flow for the customers
and make its tool suite stronger. I think it is a win-win for both
Synopsys/Avanti and the customers.
- [ Another Synopsys Employee ]
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From: [ Yet Another Synopsys Employee ]
Until recently, I was a chip designer. Currently I'm Synopsys employee. In
either role, I think it's terrific. The company will probably deal with a
lot of merger pains, but in the long-run, it will prove to be the strongest
move to keep excellent technology and produce more for the next challenges.
- [ Yet Another Synopsys Employee ]
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From: Edmond Macaluso <edmond@z-circuit.com>
This will be Aart's biggest test.
1. The politics at every level and in every aspect will be stifling.
2. The companies have some significant product overlap to resolve.
3. They have a very different attitude towards being open vs being closed.
On the other hand, each company has some key brand technologies that don't
overlap or have insignificant overlaps: DC, PhysOpt, VCS, DFT/TetraMax,
PrimeTime, Apollo, Star-RC, Mars-Rail/XT, Hercules.
This is a fairly complete, high-end flow except for sorting out hierarchical
floorplanning. This set of tools could carry them for a while, however, the
real test will be the ability to deliver the next-generation tools that can
keep the market share.
It will also be interesting to see what happens with interoperability. In
the past, Synopsys was forced to promote openness to tie into the back-end.
Now that they own a back-end, will they be so open?
Cadence and Magma have already been working on their own complete flow.
What this merger does, is make it clear to everyone that there are 3 flows:
Synopsys, Cadence, and Magma.
- Edmond Macaluso
Z Circuit Automation Mountain View, CA
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From: "Jan Alden Cornish" <jac@cadence.com>
John,
Were you planning to enlarge the scope of your newsletter to include Avanti
bugs?
- Jan Alden Cornish
Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
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