( ESNUG 376 Item 19 ) ------------------------------------------- [08/29/01]

Subject: ( DAC 01 #22 ) Innoveda And Axis Whine About Their DAC Coverage

> WHEN SW FAILS YOU:  Sometimes all the compiled Verilog CPU cycles in the
> world aren't enough to really wring out the nasty bugs in your design.
> That's when you need to plunk down some serious cash and buy yourself a
> HW accelerator/emulator.  Or, if you're on the cheap, you try to do it
> with quasi home grown FPGA boards.  Or sometimes you want your design
> (that's still only a couple hundred thousand lines of Verilog RTL) to
> interact with real world chips.


From: "Steve Wang" <wang@axiscorp.com>

Hi John,

It is good that some of our users have responded to your DAC survey.  Axis
has been doing quite well with over 500 designers using our system worldwide
and with more than 40 tapeouts under our belt.

I am curious on the reason we were left out in your DAC report request
two years in a row? 

    - Steve Wang
      Axis

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From: [ An Innoveda Marketing Person ]

Hello John, anon please

We first met at DAC many years ago.  It was the first time I learned, after
you have refused to talk with me, that Marketing people have image problem
in the US.  The reason for this email is your latest DAC report.  It was
really a surprise for me not to find any thing on Innoveda's Visual, one of
our main products (with around 10,000 seats).

During the show, our booth was relatively crowded, and defiantly had much
more traffic than many other companies mentioned in your report.  I know at
least some people were very positive on what they saw.

I'm not sure how this report works?  Have you incorporated all feedback or
only portions?  Is there any hidden marketing activity that you may not be 
aware of?  I know of other two popular Innoveda products not there.

    - [ An Innoveda Marketing Person ]


 [ Editor's Note: You have a choice.  Either you can believe that my evil
   Synopsys puppetmasters secretly want me to not publish any Innoveda
   user letters because they're terrified of Innoveda rebuilding itself
   as the new domninant force in EDA -- or -- people didn't talk about
   your company's types of tools.  You choose.  (Big Hint: No one wrote
   mentioned Mentor's Renoir, your competition, either.)  - John ]


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