( ESNUG 296 Item 9 ) ---------------------------------------------- [7/23/98]
Subject: (ESNUG 295 #3) Cadence's PB-OPT Trounces Synopsys reoptimize_design
> It seems like Avant! is playing catch-up game on the In-Place
> Optimization front. Cadence's PB-Opt (Placement Based Optimization)
> product does post-layout in-place optimization and is well integrated
> into our flow.
>
> And BTW, this product has been out there for more than 3 years now...
>
> - [ One Of Those Evil Cadence Marketing Guys ]
From: Brian Arnold <briana@mail.fusionmm.com>
John,
With regard to Cadence's PB-OPT, I implemented this tool flow (in a former
life) and used it on very high performance designs. The results seemed to
match Cadence's claims and this option enabled me to achieve a one-pass,
timing-convergent, design flow from RTL->layout. This additional feature
allowed me to replace my previous methodology, which was to iterate
(sometimes > 15 times) through Design Compiler's reoptimize_design and
Cell3/Silicon Ensemble's ECO place and route.
- Brian Arnold
Fusion Networks Corp. Longmont, CO
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
From: [ Some HP Elves ]
Conversation I had yesterday with our local place & route expert:
"Why aren't we using Cadence's "well integrated" flow instead of this
cobbled-together patchwork of bugs they sent us?"
Basically, it was a cost-saving measure. We *could have* gone for the
"enable functionality" option, but it was an additional $200K. I guess
you can't believe everything you hear from Cadence marketing, huh?
Please keep us anonymous.
- [ Some HP Elves ]
|
|
