( ESNUG 290 Item 3 ) ----------------------------------------------- [5/19/98]
Subject: ( ESNUG 287 #3 ) Canada, Nortel, & Cadence Spectrum Consulting
> Why should I care if it pissed off Andy Grove, the newly ex-CEO of Intel,
> if this raises what consulting engineers are paid? Why should I care if
> some Nortel managers might be trying to boot Cadence out, if Cadence's
> efforts mean that Nortel engineers get paid more to stay? In my reversal,
> I've learned that those who live in glass houses shouldn't look gift
> horses in the mouth. My error. Spectrum helped increase engineering
> wages. Cool.
> - John Cooley
> Industry Gadfly
From: "Jonathan Crone" <Jonathan.Crone.cronejp@nt.com>
Hi John...
Just read your column about 'Glass houses, Gift Horses' referring to Cadence
and their consulting engineering group... Interesting reading, but I do
have a 'nit' to pick...
In the column, you referred to "Nortel in Canada"
This probably is really silly, but Canada is a country of 30 million,
covering a bigger territory than the USA. Nortel has offices in about 20 +
cities in Canada, and in several of those cities, employs a thousand or
more engineers, technical and marketing staff... (or like in Ottawa, the
technology HQ, we have 12000+ plus technology types (engineers, CS,
researchers etc.)) Of course there are a few less now, because some of them
went to Cadence!!! :-)
Your reference is analogous to referring to "IBM in the USA"
When Cadence opened their office here in Ottawa, it certainly opened a lot
of eyes... Complete departments, from the design manager on through much of
the design team disappeared within weeks to go to Cadence.
The really nice side effect was there were also a bunch of startups, as guys
realized. "Hey if Cadence can do it, so can I!!!"
Cadence's effect was just like you said "It made engineers get paid better"
Almost enough to make me want to go be a ASIC guy... :-)
have a good one.
- Jonathan P. Crone
Nortel Broadband Networks ( "in Canada" )
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