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Subject: (ESNUG 228 #9 229 #1 230 #3) Synopsys DesignWare PCI Sucks
>My company has had considerable experience with Synopsys's DesignWare PCI
>product, most of it quite bad. Their basic problem was using a group of
>software developers to essentially design hardware while learning hardware
>design on the fly. They clearly had no experience with logic design at this
>level of complexity and this shows in the quality of their current product,
>as it is far from functionally correct. ....
From: Chuck Gollnick <chuckg@arnet.com>
Wow, Deepthroat there really had some valuable comments. I'm sure glad that
I asked ESNUG. Thanks for the help. With the growing popularity of PCI and
its several variants, perhaps some others found that valuable too. Poor
Synopsys, though. Nobody reported a positive experience with PCI DesignWare.
Ah well, it's a brutal, demanding market.
- Chuck Gollnick
Digi/Arnet Corporation
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From: Simon Davidmann <simond@vchips.com>
Hi John, Have you heard any more about Synopsys staying out of the PCI core
business? I heard they are still persevering, though they only have one
customer left (in Europe of course) - do you know of the US situation?
- Simon Davidmann
Virtual Chips, Inc. (formerly RAVIcad Inc.)
[ Editor's Note: After the ESNUG/PCI thread that ran last December, EE
Times ran an article stating that Synopsys had pulled the DesignWare
PCI part off the market. I did a little snooping around at the time
and found that the main problem with the Synopsys PCI part was that it
tried to be all things to all customers. That is, it had something
like over 200 parameters in it and therefore took as long as 40+
hours to synthesize -- a real nightmare. I think it was the right
thing to do in pulling the part at the time. That was six months ago.
I don't know if Synopsys has been reworking the part or is quitely
trying to forget about it; we'll just have to wait & see... - John ]
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