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Subject: (ESNUG 220 #7)  What's The Real Scoop On Synopsys & Solaris 2 ?

>Synopsys documentation claims that Synopsys should run fine on Solaris 2.
>Does anyone know different?  Also what about Cadence, IKOS, Motive, etc?
>The reason I ask is that instead of purchasing a bunch more Sparc 20s for
>the new guys we're hiring for ASIC & FPGA development, I'd like to buy a
>couple of 4 processor boxes from Sun and connect through X-Windows Server
>S/W from our PCs.  However, this is only viable using Solaris 2.


From: dblack@ink.apple.com (David C. Black)

I've been using Verilog Turbo (9404) & Synopsys 3.3a on a Sparc20 HyperSparc
running Solaris 2.4 for several months without a hitch in the EDA tool area.
(In fact there is an obscure Synopsys bug on another platform/OS that does
not show up on the Solaris version.)  My only problems were getting Solaris
correctly installed and learning the new system administrative aspects.  (I'm
my own admin.)  Compiling GNU tools is also a challenge.  None of this is
related to the EDA tools in any way.

Suggestion: Get Unison Labs' Load Balancer.  It can direct different jobs to
different machines (arch & OS versions) automatically.  Thus if one tool
works correctly only on a particular host or OS, you can setup load balancer
to automatically direct the job to that machine or group.

  - David C. Black
    Apple Computer

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From: jww@cadence.com (John Willoughby)

Cadence software is supported on Solaris (also Sun OS, IBM and HP-UX).  I
don't know about Ikos or Motive.

  - John Willoughby
    Cadence Design Systems

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From: stokes@cmc.ca (Peter Stokes)

In the Design Framework II area of Cadence tools, Cadence is over 2 years
late in getting a Solaris 2 version.  This is based on their never-ending
promises and then non-delivery.   This could be Sun's fault, Cadence's fault
or both, I don't know.   The last I heard was that it was a for-sure for
Cadence 9404 and then when 9404 was allegedly  (I never had the chance to
see it) released for Solaris 2.  (BTW, it was the last port and apparently
shipped to customers in calendar Q295, it was half-baked in that not all
Framework II products had been ported.)   I'd say Cadence is still at a V0.9
on a Solaris 2 port.   And the V1.0 of it _might_ be one to avoid.   I'm not
revisiting the Cadence Design Framework II on Solaris 2 option until 1996.

  -  Peter A. Stokes
     Canadian Microelectronics Corporation

[ Editor's Note: Peter founded comp.cad.cadence some years ago.  -  John ]

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From: gunes@jadeite.Eng.Sun.COM (Gunes Aybay)

John, 

I have been using Synopsys on SS10 and SS20 machines with SuperSPARC and
HyperSPARC processors running Solaris 2.3 and 2.4 for more than a year 
without any problems. Uniprocessor performance under Solaris 2.4 is slightly 
better than uniprocessor performance under SunOS 4.1.3, however, for MP,
you should definitely use Solaris. 

  - Gunes Aybay
    SUN Microsystems



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